states. which one do you think i'm going to ask you about? >> you know, scott, i think you're gonna go to any one of them here. >> ready? let's do it alphabetically. >> let's talk about imb. >> apple. >> the partnership. >> you run hardware for a short period of time at apple. but it's a very short time. what was that experience like? >> a great experience. i had been here's at ibm, a great career there and changing over to am, working on a set of products that were game changing in the industry, had the opportunity to turn the product line, you know, completely, all new industrial design, all new electronics, ipod, iphone, a great experience and i tell you, it's what i love to do, working on innovations, working with great people and so, it was a real eye opener. >> so i know some of these guys out there are a little wonky. i'm going to ask this question. having worked at ibm and having worked at amd and apple, do you believe hardware and software should be tightly coupled? >> a good questio